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  • GMRS Radio Range Chart

    Range is a popular word in the world of portable handheld two way radios or walkie talkies. Ironically, it's also one of the least understood among the masses, which makes it quite controversial. This simple, five letter word is easy to enunciate, yet it is perhaps one of the most complicated to resolve in the consumer radio marketplace.

    The reason for this is contained in the word itself. Although range has an absolute definition, it is defined by a range of variables. In short, range is absolutely relative.

    The Variables of Range
    A number of variables determine actual range. These include (in no particular order):

    • Type of Radio Signal
    • Obstructions
    • Terrain
    • Distance to Horizon
    • Antenna
    • Radio Power (Wattage)
    • Atmospheric Conditions

    Type of Radio Signal
    The type of radio signal is a significant variable in determining range. Lower frequencies such as those on the VHF band travel farther but can be more easily blocked. Higher frequencies in the UHF band do not travel as far but can pass around obstacles more easily. The GMRS operates on UHF frequencies around 460 MHz, so our range estimations will be based on that variable.

    Obstructions
    GMRS radios operate on "line-of-sight", which simply means that as long as they or their operators can clearly "see" each other with nothing between them to obscure their view, the radios should be able to communicate with one another. Anything that gets in the way can adversely affect the line of sight. Such things include, but are not limited to, hills, trees, bridges, buildings, vehicles and anything else that can potentially block, deflect or divert the radio signal away from its intended target.

    Terrain
    The terrain between the radios is another important consideration. If the area is flat with few or no obstructions, the signal can freely travel unencumbered towards the horizon, even at a very low power. If the terrain is populated with vegetation such as trees or heavy brush, such obstructions can slow or eventually block the signal at some point along the way. Higher frequency GMRS radio signals cannot penetrate earth, so if the terrain is hilly or mountainous, the distance the signal can travel may be reduced significantly.

    Distance to Horizon
    Since the earth is round, GMRS radio signals do not have an unlimited line of site across the entire globe. At some point, they are blocked or diverted by the curvature of the earth. This is the earth's horizon. In an area of open, level terrain with no obstacles or over open water, the average distance to the horizon is just a few miles. On the roof of a very tall building or mountaintop, the horizon could be ten, twenty or thirty miles. The higher you are over the terrain, the greater the distance between you and your horizon, hence the farther the line-of-site. Conversely, the closer you are to the ground, the nearer you are to your horizon, thus the shorter your line-of-sight.

    Antenna
    The antenna is one of the most critical components of a radio. It converts the radio signals into the electrical signals the radio can understand and vice versa. Without an antenna, your radio could neither receive nor transmit across any perceptible distance at all. This means the type, height, location and quality of the antenna will have a significant impact on the overall range of the radio signal.

    Radio Power (Wattage)
    Obviously, the more powerful a signal, the greater its potential range. Or is it? When comparing a 5 watt radio transmission to a 50 watt signal, the difference in range can be quite significant. However, when comparing two low power signals between 1 and 5 watts, the difference is not as impressive. Depending on some of the other variables, there may not be much of a difference at all. For instance, an entry level GMRS handheld walkie talkie operating at about half a watt in an open field may have about the same coverage as a five watt model in the middle of a large city. Depending on the distance to the horizon and/or the height and quality of antenna, it may be even better! The moral? Don't let the wattage rating alone dictate your choice of radio. Consider all of the variables.

    Atmospheric Conditions
    One variable that is sometimes overlooked is the atmosphere. While not as disruptive as many other variables, atmospheric effects such as rain, snow and fog can interfere with a radio signal and may slightly reduce overall range.

    The Confusion with Range
    Considering all the variables, calculating range still doesn't seem too complicated. It isn't, really. So, why the confusion? To answer that question, all we need to do is pick up a brand new pack of consumer FRS or GMRS radios and look at the packaging.

    One of the first things you may notice, more often than not, is a great big number emblazoned in bold and prominently displayed on the front of the package, usually designated in mileage. It may read 16 Miles, 26 Miles, 36 Miles or more, and is implied to be the mileage rating of the radios enclosed. The higher the number, the greater the range, and the more powerful or higher wattage the radios are perceived to be. But are they? Not necessarily.

    Remember, power/wattage is only one of the many variables used to calculate range, and as we've noted, it is not the most influential. After all, a low wattage handheld radio can have a greater range than a higher wattage handheld radio within reason, provided the other variables exceed those of the higher wattage model.

    It's easy to pick out the big bold number on the box, but miss the words "up to" in the small print above it. As a result, many who latch onto the large font and tune out the tiny type naturally assume the double digit figure is an absolute, when it isn't. In fact, the mileage on the package doesn't really figure into the range equation much at all.

    The Truth About Range
    Are the manufacturers lying? Well, technically, maybe no. If the radio is advertised to transmit (up to) 36 miles, you might get 36 miles - that is, if you're transmitting from a mountaintop or hovering somewhere in the upper troposphere and the horizon is at least 36 miles away. If you're orbiting the earth and there are no obstructions, you might even get more. But then, how often do you go there? Exactly.

    The truth is, the number on the box only indicates how far the radio has supposedly been tested to transmit and receive under what the manufacturers refer to as optimal conditions. This phrase or a variation thereof is usually found in even smaller type somewhere on the back, side, or bottom of the box. Unlike those big numbers, you'll probably have to look around to find it.

    Optimal vs. Actual Range
    Forget the fantasy figures. Let's get real. If those numbers mean anything, they serve as a general reference as to which tier the radio is placed within the industry. It works like this. GMRS radios with a low optimal range of 10-16 miles typically have basic features and functionality. These are considered low-end or entry level models. Those labeled as a higher optimal range of 35 miles and above with the most wattage, add-ons and options are considered the high-end models. The mid-tier models consist of everything in-between. While not perfect, it's a fairly reliable method and goes a long way towards simplifying the confusing marketing hype surrounding the range claims created by the manufacturers of FRS/GMRS two way radios.

    To simplify things further, the chart below was created to convert the manufacturer's advertised range to an actual, real-world range and assigned to a tier as a range rating. The chart is further divided by type of terrain for greater accuracy. Note: These are real world estimates only.

    Rick's Simple GMRS Radio Range Chart

    Urban Terrain
    Advertised Range Actual Range Range Rating
    16 miles 1-2 blocks Low
    20 miles 2-3 blocks Low
    26 miles 3-4 blocks Mid
    30 miles 4-6 blocks Mid
    36+ miles 0.2-0.25 mile High
    Suburban Terrain
    Advertised Range Actual Range Range Rating
    16 miles 300-800 feet Low
    20 miles 0.1-0.3 mile Low
    26 miles 0.4-0.5 mile Mid
    30 miles 0.6-1.0 mile Mid
    36+ miles 1-2 mile High
    Open (Level) Terrain
    Advertised Range Actual Range Range Rating
    16 miles 0.5-1 mile Low
    20 miles 1-3 miles Low
    26 miles 3-4 miles Mid
    30 miles 4-5 miles Mid
    36+ miles ~6 miles High
    No Terrain
    Advertised Range Actual Range Range Rating
    16 miles Up to 16 miles (est.) Low
    20 miles Up to 20 miles (est.) Low
    26 miles Up to 26 miles (est.) Mid
    30 miles Up to 30 miles (est.) Mid
    36+ miles Up to 36+ miles (est.) High

    Related Resources
    30 Miles? The Truth About Range
    Getting The Most Range From Your Radio
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range
    How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

  • Frequency ranges of the Wouxun KG-UV9D

    Since our announcement of the upcoming launch of the Wouxun KG-UV9D, we have received numerous queries for more details about the capabilities and features of this new radio. Some of the more frequently asked questions are related to bands and frequency ranges covered by the KG-UV9D and which of the two sides or areas of this dual receive radio (A, B, or both) support them.

    The KG-UV9D does indeed perform Twin Band Simultaneous Receiving, which means both A and B areas of the radio can independently receive and audibly emit a signal through the speaker, allowing you to hear two bands and, on some bands, two frequencies on the same band at the same time.

    We put the emphasis on the word some, because not all 7 bands are supported in both A and B areas of the radio. The table below maps the bands and frequencies supported by the KG-UV9D and the area(s) of the radio in which each will operate.

    Wouxun KG-UV9D Frequency Range
    Area A RX TX Area B RX TX
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    76-108MHz (FM Radio)
    108-136MHz (AM)
    144-148MHz (FM) 144-148MHz (FM)
    136-180MHz (FM)
    230-250MHz (FM)
    350-400MHz (FM)
    420-450MHz (FM) 420-450MHz (FM)
    420-450MHz (FM) 420-450MHz (FM)
    700-985MHz (FM)

    In a nutshell, the 2 meter VHF (144-148MHz) and 70cm UHF (420-450MHz) bands are available on both A and B for transmit and receive operation. In addition, the KG-UV9D can also receive up to 180MHz in the A area only. The only other band available on the B side is the FM radio. The other bands can be only received in the A area.

  • Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range

    Most manufacturers of consumer walkie talkies boast a maximum range between 16 and 50 miles. But are the numbers for real or are these range claims over the top? In this episode of Radio 101, Anthony from Buy Two Way Radios will tell you the truth about two way radio range and what you can reasonably expect from the typical FRS and GMRS radio under normal operating conditions.

    For an in-depth discussion about two way radio range, listen to The Two Way Radio Show episodes TWRS-05 - Radios in Range and TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range.

    Related Resources
    GMRS Radio Range Chart
    30 Miles? The Truth About Range
    Getting The Most Range From Your Radio
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

  • Two Way Radio Basics

    In this article, we will be discussing some of the basic features and functions of two-way radios. Two way radios are tools for communicating, similar to telephones, and can come in handy for many situations. Whether it be for personal use, for your business or for emergency purposes, two-way radios are an excellent and reliable form of communication.

    Two-way radios (also called walkie talkies), allowing for a few exceptions, all work essentially the same way. There is a battery that powers the unit which is typically rechargeable. Volume can often be controlled with the use of a knob or button on the unit itself. When using the radio to communicate, the transmission is activated with the use of a Push-To-Talk or "PTT" button. Simply press the PTT button and speak into the microphone and your voice is sent over the air! When the PTT button is released, the receiver becomes active, allowing other radios to communicate back.

    A two-way radio, in its most basic description, is a "transceiver". This means that it is a device that can both transmit and receive content. Radios communicate with one another using certain frequencies. The radios can "speak" to each other only when they are set to the same frequency. The two most popular frequency ranges that two-way radios use are called "VHF - Very High Frequency" and "UHF - Ultra High Frequency". VHF frequencies are best for exclusive outdoor use, as these frequencies will hug the ground and travel further in open areas. UHF frequencies, the more popular of the two, tend to penetrate obstructions and will work well both indoors and out.

    Most two-way radios have the capability to work on multiple "channels". A specific frequency can be assigned to each channel, giving the radio many different alleyways of communication. Businesses often take advantage of channels by assigning a channel to each department. This keeps employees from being distracted by irrelevant conversations while still allowing management to easily communicate with all groups. On FRS consumer or family radios the channels are useful as a way to cut down on eavesdroppers or interference when in an area where there are many radios in use.

    The maximum range of a two-way radio will vary, depending on any number of things. In the unit itself, the range will be directly linked to the wattage of the unit and the antenna. The higher the wattage and better the antenna, the more range your two-way radio will be able to achieve. Outside factors can also affect range. Certain terrain, solid obstructions, or even day-to-day weather can be factors that will affect the maximum range your radio will transmit. Despite high range claims by manufacturers, we usually tell our customers not to expect more than 1-2 miles in an environment such as a city or town.

    Two-way radios can range from very basic to very complex pieces of equipment. This article is meant to introduce you to some of the basic features and how they operate, but we have barely begun to scratch the surface as to what two-way radios can actually achieve. Check our site or contact us for more in-depth information!

  • TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range

    We talk about Uniden's recent increase in the advertised range of their radios and how misleading they are. We also review the Motorola MS355R two way radio.

    Intro :00
    Billboard 1:18

    Topic Discussion 1:37
    we'll talk about the recent increase in the range advertised on some newer models of Uniden GMRS two way radios. We will discuss what these numbers are, what we really think about Uniden's claims and reveal what actual ranges you can realistically expect from these radios in normal conditions. To find out more about the range issue, read 30 Miles? The Truth About Range. To learn how to get the most range from your FRS/GMRS radios, listen to Episode 5 - Radios in Range.

    Commercial Break 19:11
    buytwowayradios.com 1:00

    Product Review 20:10
    Today we review the Motorola Talkabout MS355R two way radios.

    Questions and Answers 26:22
    Questions from readers of our Two Way Radio Blog and members of the Two Way Radio Forum.

    Wrap up and Close 30:09
    Send in your comments and questions for Danny, Anthony and Rick to show[at]buytwowayradios.com. Feedback on this and other topics will be read by the hosts and included in future episodes of the show. Visit us at www.twowayradioshow.com!

    © 2012 Cricket Ventures, LLC. All rights reserved.

  • How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

    This video explains how range limitations affect radio signals and provides tips and tricks for optimizing range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios.

    Related Resources
    GMRS Radio Range Chart
    30 Miles? The Truth About Range
    Getting The Most Range From Your Radio
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range

  • TWRS-05 - Radios in Range

    Today we'll discuss how performance of FRS and GMRS radios are affected by range and talk about things you can do to maximize performance and get the most range out of your radio.

    Intro :00
    Billboard 1:15

    Topic Discussion 1:30
    We talk about how range affects performance and give you four tips to maximize the range of your FRS and GMRS radios. You can read more about range in the articles Getting The Most Range From Your Radio and 30 Miles? The Truth About Range.

    Commercial Break 13:31
    buytwowayradios.com 1:00

    Product Review 14:29
    Today we will review the Uniden GMR-3689 two way radio.

    Questions and Answers 20:39
    Questions from e-mail and the TwoWayRadioForum.com.

    Wrap up and Close 26:40
    Send in your comments and questions for Danny, Anthony and Rick to show(at)buytwowayradios.com. Feedback on this and other topics will be read by the hosts and included in future episodes of the show. Visit us at www.twowayradioshow.com!

    © 2011 Cricket Ventures, LLC. All rights reserved.

  • Stop Lying About Range!

    Ok, many of you by now have noticed that then new Midland radios are saying they have a 36 mile range. That leads many to believe that you can give one to a friend, jump in your car, drive straight down the road across a large city for one hour, stop, and still be able to talk with them.

    We all know that two way radios are typically only usable for 1-2 miles without using a repeater. Then, you might get 20 miles or more. So why are many of the manufacturers such as Midland, Cobra, Garmin, Uniden and Motorola telling people they will work for 10, 15, 20, 36 miles? Look on the box, in giant print, they say something like 36 MILE RANGE! If they could put blinking lights around it they would.

    They are misleading you.

    They place (often in small print or with a misleading diagram) on the box something about "maximum range achieved only under certain conditions". Those conditions involve being at the top of a mile high dormant volcano in the middle of the ocean, and sending a burst of static to a person on a deserted bare island 30 miles away. I know we have a lot of customers who need radios for just that situation! In equally small print, something is stated that in most cases the radio only has about one mile of usable range.

    So they want to deceive you about the range, and they are creating a false or misleading impression as to the capability of the radio. Then we get stuck having to put that in the description of the radio, and then explaining to customers the truth. Thanks. The only manufacturer that is honest about range it would seem is Trisquare.

    The sad thing is, they make perfectly good radios for the money. They have no need to do this. If you buy a set of FRS/GRMS radios from Midland, Cobra, Garmin, Uniden or Motorola, they will give you years of affordable and reliable use. They only work for about one mile, but they will do so consistently.

    If they think they have to do this to compete with each other, all they are doing is making themselves look like idiots. How many repeat customers have they lost from this? The best kind of advertising is word of mouth, way to ruin that guys! You would rather insult your customers just to try and stand out on a store shelf.

    Related Resources
    GMRS Radio Range Chart
    30 Miles? The Truth About Range
    Getting The Most Range From Your Radio
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range
    How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

  • Getting The Most Range From Your Radio

    Hiking through the mountainsUpdated March 25, 2021
    One question that we are frequently asked is "how can I get more range out of my two way radio?" In the case of consumer FRS and GMRS radios, the amount of range you can expect is usually not even close to what the manufacturers advertise. There are, however, several things that you can do to be sure you are getting the most range possible from your radio.

    Whether you have an FRS or GMRS radio, be sure that you are using it on a higher power channel at its highest allowable power setting. Most of the old consumer FRS/GMRS combo radios support 22 channels at a maximum transmit power of less than 2 watts. As a result of the FCC rule changes in 2017, this reclassified these models as FRS walkie talkies. If the radios are above 2 watts, they are now considered GMRS radios. This means the old FRS and GMRS channels are now shared by both services.

    However, it is important to note that GMRS radios require a license to operate, while FRS radios are licensed by rule, i.e. no license is required. This means your range is not only determined by how much power you apply, but how much power you are allowed to use.

    There is one more caveat. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) does not allow transmission on channels 8-14 at more than half a watt of power. This means that if you are on one of those channels, your radio will only transmit using "low power" mode, no matter which service your radios fall under.

    To put it simply, for maximum power, use channels 1-7 or 15-22.

    Most consumer radios support two or more power modes. To get the most range, be sure that you are using high power mode on the channels that allow it. Lower power modes will not use all of your radio's possible output power and will reduce range.

    Be sure to fully charge your battery. The transmission power of a two way radio tends to weaken if the battery is low. Always be sure your batteries are fully charged before using your radios, especially if you will need maximum range.

    If you are using a GMRS radio and the antenna is removeable, consider upgrading the antenna. Most "bubble pack" GMRS radios do not have removeable antennas, in which case there is not much you can do about it. Professional grade GMRS radios such as the extremely popular Wouxun KG-805G and KG-905G do allow you to remove and swap the stock antenna for one that is more finely tuned to GMRS frequencies, thus increasing range considerably. The Nagoya NA-701G and NA-771G are two notable examples of high performance antennas for portable handheld GMRS walkie talkies. Both are extremely popular with GMRS operators.

    Finally, if you still find yourself pushing the range limits of your radio you can try the "monitor channel" feature. Enabling this feature will cause the radio to open the channel, allowing you to hear static and transmissions too weak to be received by the radio in normal mode.

    Related Resources
    GMRS Radio Range Chart
    30 Miles? The Truth About Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range
    How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

  • 30 Miles? The Truth About Range

    Midland GXT2000 Two Way RadioYou may have noticed that most of the consumer two-way radios you see around advertise a range of up to 30 miles. The truth is, consumer FRS and GMRS radios will not even provide close to the advertised "maximum range".

    The range that a two-way radio advertises is the range that the radio should get in "ideal" conditions. Ideal conditions are line of sight, such as from a mountaintop to a valley below -- no interference at all. Most likely, you will not be using the radios in these circumstances! You will probably want two-way radios for things such as hunting, skiing, malls, car trips or vacations. Under these normal conditions, the range of the radio will be limited because of obstructions, such as trees, hills, or buildings. These obstructions block the signal and dramatically reduce the range of a two-way radio.

    So what type of range can you expect from your radio? Usually half a mile up to two miles, depending upon your terrain and the power of your radio. In the same environment, a 2 watt radio with a long antenna would provide considerably more range than a half watt radio with a short antenna.

    When choosing a radio, it is very important to consider both the amount of range that you need and the environment in which you will be using the radios. Naturally, you wouldn't have as many obstructions in a football stadium as being in the middle of a heavily wooded area. For use in a stadium you would likely be fine with a small, one watt radio. In a wooded area, however, that same radio may not provide sufficient range. These are things that you need to take into consideration when choosing which two-way radio is right for you.

    Related Resources
    GMRS Radio Range Chart
    Getting The Most Range From Your Radio
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-05 - Radios in Range
    The Two Way Radio Show TWRS-45 - The Truth About GMRS Radio Range
    Radio 101 - The truth about FRS / GMRS two way radio range
    How To Optimize Range for Motorola Talkabout Two Way Radios

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